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Picea orientalis parade

Lots more to do, so I'll let the vets start this parade!

Comments (47)

  • pineresin
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    It regenerates naturally here ;-)

    Self-sown tree growing under Pinus nigra; old specimens in background.

    Resin

  • dansgrdn
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    That's a beauty Resin. Thanks for sharing the photo.

    Dan

  • kmanzfive laknee
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I guess I'll go first. I do have some more. But waiting to see who else will bite.

    Picea orientalis 'Skylands Prostrate'


    Picea orientalis 'Gowdy Gold'

  • tunilla
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Nice! I just got an 18" 'Skylands'. Not in the ground yet
    And what is that good-looking pine behind 'Gowdy Gold'? T.

  • coniferjoy
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    This one is selected from seedlings by myself.
    'Filip's Little Mound'
    {{gwi:611140}}

  • gardener365
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    ooooh ahhhh, nice selection Edin.

    The only one I have is a very small graft of 'Golden Start' but many seedlings I do have. Stephen I see you have this on Google but no photo to be seen or does anyone else have a photo to share?

    Kev, let us see that 'Skyland's Seedling' you were telling me about.

    Dax

  • coniferjoy
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Dax, I have a photo to share of the 'Golden Start' aka 'Wittbold Compact'
    Picea orientalis 'Golden Start'

  • kmanzfive laknee
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Dax I will post a pic of 'skylands seedling' tomorrow, been pretty crappy weather here.
    Tunilla behind 'gowdy gold' is Pinus strobus 'Ainsworth' which was found in upstate Vermont. I find it to be a very tight,compact broom.

  • gardener365
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Edwin, thank you. That has a great golden flush compared to the other conifers in the picture. My newest Picea however not orientalis 'Spruce Lane' which a photo can be found on Google, a glauca has 4 weeks of spring golden flush. It is a graft from this year and has a long way to go.

    Thanks Kev. I like that strobus too. It looks like about 3" of new candles which is a "perfect" dwarf conifer. Maybe 2.5. Later,

    Dax

  • henksgarden
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I make more photo's tomorrow


    Picea orientalis Prof Langner

    Picea orientalis Early Gold

    Henk

  • bluespruce53
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Edwin, here is an even biger! 'Golden Start' about 24 years old, ten feet high by about seven feet across.
    {{gwi:757925}}

    Picea orientalis 'Shovenhorst'
    {{gwi:757927}}

  • coniferjoy
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Nice 'Golden Start' Bluespruce!
    The one I have in my collection is made from a cutting and grows nice and slowly.

    A small correction for the 'Shovenhorst', it must be written as 'Schovenhorst'.
    It's found as a witches'broom at the Schovenhorst Pinetum in Putten, Holland.

  • bluespruce53
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Yes, sorry Edwin, it's just a typo on my part, promise I won't do it again :0)

  • kmanzfive laknee
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Sorry guys for posting in the Abies koreana parade. What can I say.
    Picea orientalis 'Skylands Odd Form'


    Picea orientalis 'Professor Langner'

    Picea orientalis 'Tom Thumb'

    Picea orientalis 'Skylands Seedling' with leader removed for grafting purposes.

  • sprucebud
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    picea orientalis 'Mount Vernon'


    picea orientalis 'Skylands'

  • coniferjoy
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Kmanzfive,

    What are the caracteristics of the 'Skylands Odd Form' and the 'Skylands Seedling'?
    The 'Skylands Odd Form' looks more greenish to me or is yours standing in the shade most part of the day?

    Some other cultivars:
    'Atrovirens'

    'Barnes'

    'Bergman's Gem'

    'Doverside Pendula' (not a true weeping form)

    'Gracilis'

  • kmanzfive laknee
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Coniferjoy - 'Odd Form' is as yellow, when I took the picture a storm was coming in lighting was off - oh well,it is a much, much slower growing cultivar. 'Skylandlands Seedling' - is tight, as yellow, the shape of mine I'd say conical and to me it really looks like a yellow form of 'Barnes' at least mine does anyway, took leader off for grafting. Between 1" to 2" of growth per year.

  • coniferjoy
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Kmanzfive, thanks for your info.

    A couple more...
    'Hexenbesen' (= 'Witches'broom' in the German language')

    'Juwel'

    'Kenwith'

    'Knaptonensis'

    'Mount Vernon'

  • bluespruce53
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Edwin, It is very possible that 'Knaptonensis' is the same as 'Murphy', and that 'Kenwith' could possibly be a Picea abies form.

  • sluice
    14 years ago
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    Shadow's Broom
    {{gwi:677849}}

  • coniferjoy
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Bluespruce,

    'Knaptonensis' and 'Murphy' are not the same plant.
    The 'Knaptonensis' is a tree form while the 'Murpy' is a compact witches'broom.

    'Murphy'

    Indeed, it could be that the 'Kenwith' is a Picea abies witches'broom, the needles are differend and a ligther green.

  • bluespruce53
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Edwin, perhaps you need to grow 'Murphy' for a little longer, then come back and tell me it's a compact witches' broom ?

  • coniferjoy
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Bluespruce,
    I grow them both at my nursery and then you see the difference from the beginning on.


    The 'Murphy' is on the left, the 'Knaptonensis' on the right.

    You can see that the 'Murphy' do have a nest forming shape and the 'Knaptonensis' is a tree form with a leader.
    All of these young plants looks this way.
    Also the 'Knaptonensis' do have a lighter green needle colour.

  • coniferjoy
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    My last one's...
    'Schovenhorst'

    'Schadow's Broom' (received from Stephen last year)

    'Spring Grove'

    'Stovezand'

  • firefightergardener
    Original Author
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I can add a few, even if they are just babies:

    Picea orientalis 'Pendula'

    'Iseli Seedling'

    'Nutans'

    'Silver Seedling'

    'Skylands'

    'Early Gold'

    'Daureas'

    'Ferny Creek Prostrate'

    Added this one as well, though it is not Picea orientalis - it's very similar.

    Picea jezoensis 'Aurea'


    Will

  • coniferjoy
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Will,

    Nice photo's of the Picea orientalis cultivars you have in your collection.

    Also the Picea jezoensis 'Aurea' looks great but remember that this one is not a nestforming plant as seen at your photo.
    It's an upright form which growes slow for the first couple of years.
    I think you have to cut some side branches away at the right side.
    If you want to keep it nest forming then you have to cut the leaders away when they appear.

    Picea jezoensis 'Aurea' (photo taken in Winter)

  • bluespruce53
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Edwin, Picea orientalis 'Shadow's Broom', not Schadow's Broom.

    Picea orientalis 'Tom Thumb'(Gold)
    {{gwi:757976}}

  • bluespruce53
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Picea orientalis 'Reynold's no.1' - one of the two M3 witches' brooms found by Bernard Reynolds, rare as hens teeth, and not to be confused with 'Murphy' which is wrongly attributed as being one of the M3 brooms in the 'World Checklist of Conifers'
    {{gwi:757977}}

  • gardener365
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Wonderful photos. Saved em all just about.

    Thanks,

    Dax

  • coniferjoy
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Stephen,
    I know it's 'Shadow's Broom' but it's the language English to Dutch.
    In Holland we don't have words with "sh", we write them as "sch", so I wrote the name of this cultivar in a wrong way.
    You had the oppeside problem with writing the 'Schovenhorst' as 'Shovenhorst'.
    No problem here as long as we help eachother out, it keeps us sharp ;0)

    Which one is the other M3 broom that Bernard Reynolds found?
    As you mentioned the 'Reynold's no.1' is as rare as hens teeth :0) the scionswood I received from you were succesfull grafted.
    Does M3 means Mountain 3?
    Picea orientalis 'Reynold's no.1'

    'Leden'

    'Eddie Rezek'

    'Holenka'

  • greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thank you all for the continuing fine parade of pictures! We are all in your debt.
    I really appreciate the pics, and also the stories behind the finding of various trees.
    Thanks again,

    Josh

  • gardener365
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Great brooms Edwin. Fantastic. Since you two lovers have finished quarreling, we can move on ;0)!!

    I'll start with some first class 'Skyland's':

    With Pseudotsuga menziesii 'Environmentals'

    'Skyland's'

    Winter Color zone 5:

    'Gowdy'
    {{gwi:686425}}

    'Aureospicata'

    'Aureospicata'

    'Barnes'

    'Connecticut Turnpike'

    'Gracilis'

    'Losely'

    'Nana'

    'Nigra Compacta'
    {{gwi:617274}}

    'Silver Falls'
    {{gwi:599517}}

    'Silver Falls'
    {{gwi:599518}}

    'Bergman's Gem'


    How's bout a Hosta and a Maple:

    'Tidewater' no drueling Ken. Speaking of the devil, where you at, a "permanent" vacation, I'm wondering? :-)lol I know, mean.

    Acer palmatum 'Callico'
    {{gwi:664013}}

    Dax

  • bluespruce53
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Dax. only use an apostrophe to show possession, so none in 'Skylands' ;o)

  • coniferjoy
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Stephen, what does the 'Reynold's no.2' looks like, do you also have a photo of this one?
    I never came across this cultivar so I think it also have to be very rare.

  • gardener365
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    ha ha Stephen.. I remember. if the plants aren't in your garden, well what can I say...

    Edwin, there are "Reynold's" Picea's but I don't know the species. I will check my photos later. Seems to me they are either Picea abies or Picea pungens, however.

    Dax

  • bluespruce53
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Edwin, I don't have 'Reynold's no.2'(listed as 'Reynolds') in my collection, it is a much faster growing selection though. probably similar to cultivars like 'Bergman's Gem' or 'Wansdyke Broom'. there is a short story and photos about Bernard Reynolds and the M3 witches' brooms in the BCS Journal Autumn 2005 No.5.

    Dax,I have seen a Picea abies Reynold's no.1 in the Harper Collection at Hidden Lake Gardens, that doesn't have anything to do with Bernard Reynolds and the Picea orientalis brooms.

  • clement_2006
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    My Tom Thumb Gold today,

    Clément

  • bluespruce53
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Very nice plant Clement, how old is it ?

  • clement_2006
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    My Picea orientalis "Skylands" today.

    My Tom Thumb Gold are planted in winter 97-98 arround 2 or 3 years old at this time, = +/-14 years old.

    Clément

  • buckeye_cincy
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Clement how old is that skylands? How tall & wide?

  • coniferjoy
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Clément,
    I think you are one of the first persons in Europe which became the 'Tom Thumb' and the 'Skylands', I have never seen such a big one's!

  • gardener365
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Wow. age of Skylands?

    Picea orientalis Oregon grown P+3 (Quick greenhouse then transplanted 3 years minimum before it ever got to me). My first year growing corn. 'Sugar Buns' block planted May21 photo from July5:
    {{gwi:758004}}

    5 blocks of Sweet Corn. (last block didn't plant) and block prior still needs weeding (blocks are 30' x 30' (10m x 10m entire garden = 60m x 10m). I'm enjoying this more than my conifers dare i say:

    Me...well, I'm 35 :0)
    {{gwi:758008}}

    Dax

  • clement_2006
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    My picea orientalis "Skylands" have arround 28 years old.

    Clément

  • gardener365
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    A one of a kind.

    Thanks,

    Dax

  • tunilla
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Magnificent specimens you've got there, Clément. It looks like things are growing pretty much into one another. Wouldn't that be a Picea omorika 'Nana' growing to the left of your 'Skylands'? Will you have to sacrifice one or the other some time in the future? T.

  • clement_2006
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Tunilla,
    Yes,it's a Picea omorika "Nana" they are not too close for the moment,bu maybe in the future if neccesary I cut Picea omorika "Nana" for me Picea orientalis "Skyands "
    is more interesting !
    After 30/35 years of collecting I have this problem each year.
    Clément

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