I originally bought and set this up in 2010 and just replaced it with the same model. It still was working fine but the Watch TV button finally started to get a little flaky. This makes sense, it’s the one that gets pressed the most. I was satisfied with 9 years of daily use and bought the same one again. The new one went right into service with no problems. I think I’ll get another one now just to keep on hand for when this new one gives up in 10 years.
My setup:
Yamaha receiver
Panasonic plasma TV
Frontier Fios cable/dvr
Xbox One (also used for DVD and Blu-Ray)
Raspberry Pi with Kodi
Raspberry Pi with Retropie
Nintendo Wii
Nintendo GameCube
Nintendo N64
Note that the GameCube and N64 are not programmed as devices. You can’t control them with IR anyway, you have to use the game controllers and you will have to manually turn on the power switch. But you can still use the remote to set up the custom activities “Play GameCube” and “Play N64”. These activities will power up the TV, power up the receiver, and switch the receiver to whatever AV connection you are using for the game. Thus in this way you can sort of use more than 8 devices.
This remote also can operate the Xbox One menus for non game stuff like watching Youatube and it also nicely runs all functions of Kodi media center on the Rasberry Pi with a Flirc controller installed. Nice!
Amazingly this same remote is still in the Logitech product line all these years later, and thankfully so. This is about as good as you are going to get and the price is great compared to the far more expensive new models. It’s simple and it’s effective. It gets the job done. Just read all the reviews on those expensive new models and see if you think people are getting a better experience for hundreds of dollars more. Even after all these years and with all of the brains and technology in the world, it seems no one can solve the riddle of the universal remote. Spend all the money you want, none are perfect and there will always be frustration with the setup and operation. Some of this has to do with the zillion different things out there that need to be controlled, some has to do with the lack of comprehensive standards, and some has to do with the inherent limitations of the technology. At least with this one you won’t spend a lot of money, and in my experience it will work fine if you understand the limitations.
Basically, as others have said, you simply must keep the remote pointed at your system until everything has had a chance to turn on and switch to the correct settings. This can take a few seconds, but this is an eternity for people who cannot manage the task and start waving it around as soon as they press a button. You can avoid 90% of all your problems if you simply keep that remote pointed towards the equipment until it is done! It really is as simple as that.
If you mess this up, things will “get out of sync”. For example, the remote might think the tv is on when it is really off. So things won’t work right. You can press Help and the built-in wizard will extract you from your mess, MOST of the time. If not, just manually turn everything off and start over, and this time, you got it, KEEP IT POINTED RIGHT, and then it will work.
Seriously, I can sit my bloated fat butt on the couch, day in and day out for months on end, using this remote hundreds and hundreds of times to watch TV, watch movies, watch YouTube, play video games, and on and on, and it will work flawlessly every single time. Then I hand it to someone else to watch TV, and after they inevitably ask me “how do I use it to watch TV?” I say “press the button that says ‘Watch TV’ (DUH) and keep it pointed at the TV until everything is on”. And they inevitably mess it up and holler “it’s not working! What do I do now?”. And why is this so? Because they did not keep it pointed at the TV, that’s why.
Note that this is not a limitation of this particular remote, this is due to the inherent limitations of the technology. When you want to do something like watch TV on a full theater system, you are using a macro in the remote to accomplish this. A macro is nothing more than a series of IR commands sent out to the different parts of the system, such as: 1) turn on the tv, 2) set the tv to the correct input, 3) turn on the receiver, 4) set the receiver to the correct input. These have to be done one after the other, not all at once, in order to make everything work right. It doesn’t take long, but it still does take a few seconds, and those few seconds are just a bit too long for all those people who cannot manage the simple task of keeping the remote pointed in one direction until it is done.
The other limitation of the technology is that there is no “state awareness” for the remote. All this means is this: the remote has no way to “know” if the power for your TV or other device is ON or OFF. This is true for any IR remote. In the case of the Harmony remotes, they “assume” that the power is off for everything in your system when you are telling it to turn things on, such as when you want to do something like watch TV. If the remote assumes your TV is off when you press Watch TV and it is actually turned on then it will send the power toggle command and turn your TV off. Now it’s off when it should be on, and you are scratching your head staring dumbly at it and wondering why you cannot see your American Idol. The wizard in the Logitech remotes at least tries to bail you out by using a logic tree and having you press some buttons and answer some questions so it can get everything where it should be.
Even the All Off button is not guaranteed to turn everything off. Because if something is ALREADY OFF when it thinks it is ON then the All Off button will turn it ON! Got that?
For anyone still reading this far, this situation is due to the common use of the single “toggle” power button, that is, the button you press on your TV, receiver, or whatever to turn the power on and to turn the power off. This translates to an IR remote code that simply toggles the power to the opposite of whatever state it is in. Now some components also use what is called “discrete” IR signals. This is a fancy way of saying there is one code to power off and a different code to power on. If the component is on and you send it a discrete on code, it simply ignores it and stays on. But if you send it a discrete off code then it turns off. This is a much more nifty way to turn things on and off with a remote, because now the All Off button could be 100% reliable to actually turn everything off, and this would give you a foolproof bailout if you mess it up (by now, you should know how you messed it up right?). If things aren’t right you could just hit the All Off button and everything would go off and then the remote would have a known starting point for you to try again. Sadly, many components don’t use the discrete power codes, only the toggle codes. Which means, if you messed up and didn’t get something turned on then when you press All Off you will actually turn that one on. Then when you press your command which will logically send the power toggle command to turn on, it will promptly turn OFF! Now, you have truly descended into madness and have thrown your remote through the TV screen.
30 years of consumer electronics and we are all still stuck in this same boat. We’ll have flying cars before this gets solved.
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Logitech Harmony 650 Infrared All in One Remote Control, Universal Remote
Brilliant and Colorful:
See icons for your favorite channels as well as the commands you need for the devices you’re using.
Click. Sit back. Enjoy:
Just select what you want to do—such as “Watch a DVD”—and Harmony 650 does the rest.*
Setup that’s a Snap:
Connect your remote to your computer. Tell us about your devices. We take care of the hard stuff.
- * Online setup required.
Additional Features
- Supports 6000+ brands: Feel confident that Harmony 650 will control the devices you have today and the ones you add tomorrow—whether it’s a new Blu-ray player or an aging VCR.
- Ever-growing device database: Your remote won’t become obsolete when manufacturers release new products or when you buy a new TV or add a Blu-ray player to your setup.
- Guided online setup: Connect the remote to your computer and tell us what equipment you have. Our online software walks you through the setup process.* * Online setup required.
Color Smart Display:
See just what you need, like icons for your favorite channels and the commands you need for the devices you’re using. The smart display provides help when you need it.
One-click Activity Buttons:
Simplify your entertainment experience. Once it’s set up, just select what you want to do and Harmony 650 does the rest.
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Buttons are grouped by their functions, shaped to help you navigate, and backlit so you always know where you are.
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(Updated 2019) - Beyond my expectation..high flexibility, nice design and works great.
****Updated on March, 29 2019****I was surprised it is NEW unopened, manufacturer original package, Amazon.com still stocked this Harmony 650 and sold one third of the original price back in 2013. (actually sold by Boss Treasures but fulfillment by Amazon.com)I have purchase second unit to replace the older unit. The older done great, no issues at all, but the unit is 'half damage' because of the battery was leaked. I left the unit more than 2 years with the AA batteries not taken away.After tried hard prying the case to clean up and self-refurbish the inside electronics pcb board, some parts got corroded by leak chemicals, but it still works after I flushed the program again. Unfortunately several main buttons were not responsive anymore. (please don't use cheap china battery for longer period).Thanks to Amazon.com, with expedited 3-days internationally shipment via DHL, I received this second unit today. Amazon does great all the time to their international customer, the fastest and cheapest shipping on earth.Ok, this one printed as 2017 on its manual. slightly has different packaging cosmetic appearance if compared to my 2013 model.2013 unit comes with grayish packing, older Logitech logo and dual AA Duracell Alkaline battery. This one comes with dual AA GP Alkaline (Logitech tried hard to cut their cost?)The physical appearance, both are 100% same and quality feel of buttons still there.Since I do not yet program the unit so will not comment on that matter. Hopefully this one doesn't have any drawback/ negatives.Again, thanks Amazon.com for such great services.****************************I got too skeptical for the first time, scared by those negatives comments by those peoples that too pampered and technical avoidance. I had canceled my first order due to this bad impression, many of them. Then after doing some intensive research, going out from Amazon.com, find other sources of review.. then finally I had placed the order. Arrived very fast and great packing by Amazon. Yes at the first moment we would feel likely to setting up a micro controller circuit-program and run the setup. Similarly the situation as the time when buying a new AV appliances, with many unknown buttons, but patiently we will learn that features after used several times. I found too many useful features hidden beneath its 'messy' initial setup. This Harmony 650 is beyond my expectation and its cool with useful interface. At first time log-in the setup, I felt to blame Logitech for their on-line web-based setup system.Yes, a little bit discomfort as we need to register at Logitech Harmony websites and then to start free downloads of the Microsoft Silverlight and Harmony device driver and software. The Logitech may assumed that every user could be connected to internet nowadays. But later I discovered that the kind of setup will help this device from dumped with thousand of unused devices list and drivers inside the memory. The internet setup will help the Harmony to select the latest updated devices, hence the selected devices, ones will be downloaded to Harmony and kept into your Logitech account for later preference or re setting a new one. This will save a lot of device memory, complexity of circuitry and absolutely lighter processing.The Harmony 650 is a very flexible remote commander that actually may replace any of the remote commander with IR system. Besides of the existing thousand of its known-devices database, we are able to add any unknown-devices as long as these devices using IR (Infra Red LEDs) commander system by having the original remote (as well as your AC, Fan or China-unknown brand appliances).You will feel how much Harmony 650 simply helps to manage all those different original remotes after completely run the required setup process. Simultaneously the Harmony 650 will switch on and off these AV appliances in a time through a special function. Also it can be modified/ customized all the buttons with the desired function regarding to our comfort. The learning IR features actually could make this remote handle more than 5 devices if we understand the tricks behind (train-register-drag-save-sync-run).It may included as a sub-remote menus but derived the IRs signal from different brand. I just did customization to embed all these Smart LED TV, Stereo (2 brands), Mini TV (china) into this Harmony-just once-touch button it will wake-up & configures the selected input/output of appliances. Let say I add an activity- Watch the DVD, the Harmony will auto-configures to wake-up all respected devices I/O ports-LEDs TV HDMI-in+DVD Players HDMI-out+Home Surround System SPDIF.. just a single button.Next step I'll train my AC and Fans for extra activities. Great remote but need patient guy with some basic understanding how IR works (pulses of emitted IRs). The buttons are soft and high contrast color LCD display.Highly recommended!********Updated 26th NovI just successfully adding my Panasonic Inverter 1HP AC and the Harmony's IR signal works well to control. But taken notes, it needs to be correctly learn-tuned by the following function from the original commander. The drawback to replace an AC is the Harmony will not able shows/display of AC Fan speed number, temperatures values or the timer-wake up clock. Unless the AC indoor chiller has built-in temp/status display on board.But it works fine all the way by that 'blind' commanding.We also able to put delays for IRs signal timing to suite with any remote system. Te be WARNED-adding the favourites channel JPEG logos/pictures will override the previous Device setting-may be this is the only design flaw that the Logitech will fix for next firmware updates.
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Francisco Ancona
Fácil de configurar y muy útil.
Reviewed in Mexico on December 20, 2016
Mark Wood
Love it, need it, but don't use it so much
Reviewed in Japan on January 31, 2016